me = Russell Walker
Denesh = the dude doing Acolytes
Get The Pheromoans’ new LP here.
Get Acolytes EP here.
me: are you a fan of the band Pussy Riot?
Denesh: i’m rubbish at interviews we possibly have to edit a lot out
who are they?
looking at them on the bbc now
3:29 PM me: they are a good band
3:30 PM Denesh: ok
me: that answers that question. i see the stone roses has reformed
this guy from work went to see them and this weird family was there watching
they passed him the england flag and he spat on it and then stamped on it
then threw it back in the crowd
3:31 PM me: i think thats good. you don’t?
Denesh: it’s great
if it wasn’t geared towards his own twisted idea of the nation
3:32 PM does this have to be a serious interview?
Denesh: can’t we just tell loads of lies like octogram?
me: yes to that as well
me: the english flag is a weird one. i went to football with my dad in the nineties and they sold them, and one day i just bought one, i was only about 13, because it had arsenal on it, accross the middle. i think it really freaked my dad out,
understandably. i didn’t really understand the connotations.
Denesh: i’m not trying to be overtly political
3:35 PM it’s just no one really knows what this means
the england flag
me: the country has gone mad
Denesh: i think people have a better idea of what it meant in the 90s
but having an england flag now is an empty gesture
3:36 PM me: morrissey had one in the 90’s didn’t he, and the NME said he was racist
3:37 PM when the NME is the most conservative paper other than the Daily Mail
Denesh: it’s awful
3:38 PM i do like the stone roses tho
me: i was waiting for a train a while ago, so i went into WH Smith and picked up the NME, and other than having a load of publicists waffling on, it had this feature encouraging bands to get business accounts with Lloyds TSB
Denesh: the stone roses are alright
3:39 PM me: i prefer the happy mondays. i would need to be very bored before i read the book ‘Retromania’ though.
Happy Mondays – Wrote for luck (from “Bummed)
Denesh: russell. we have to take anything overtly political out of this interview
3:44 PM me: yes.. people who know us will think we’ve gone insane
Denesh: no it’s not that
i think everyone places this post internet personal politics card
i mean reading about it all the time
better to say nothing that ram it down people’s throats
3:45 PM actually i’m sick of hearing about it
me: here’s one: the engine rooms gig in brighton about 6(?) years ago. Mad
Headed Octogram was playing & you were in a band
the sword drawings
me: ah, thats it
Denesh: this is a band where me and doig cut our teeth
we didn’t have jobs so used to practice every day
3:46 PM this band was better when it wasn’t a band so to speak
i never really enjoyed gigging
me: well i performed that night in MHO, who hadn’t practiced before
and it was a bit awkward
Denesh: yeah, i didn’t understand what was going on when MHO played
3:47 PM in fact is still don’t! but enjoyed it
all of that era is a bit of a haze actually
my memory is terrible
me: there is a video but i don’t think he will ever let it out get out there
3:48 PM it was just before the pheromoans so bands were a bit of a mystery to me – i just remember being impressed people knew how to play instruments and things
Denesh: haha yeah, that circa 2005 dalston «prog» scene
load of wankery
3:49 PM me: ha yes. what is everyone into now?
Denesh: dunno. everyone just listens to whatever
different people into different
it’s keeby’s brithday next weekend in york
i haven’t spoke to him in a while. no idea what he’s up to
3:50 PM me: i saw him in leeds when we played.
Denesh: O yea?
3:51 PM me: yes leeds. i stayed in a corporate hotel, away from the other members of the
band! i found it hilarious. it only cost me £20 or something for the room. btw, i
should set the record straight – MHO is a very good band, it was just it lasted so long everyone sobered up. christian had this thing called Wild Street Dancer -
3:52 PM «Wild Street Dancer – reformed character – wild beautiful bouncer»
me: it always went down well with the doormen
3:53 PM Denesh: hah.
so what’s next for Savoury Days?
got any releases on the horizon?
me: i think tom james scott (experimental guitar) and luke (of Helm and Birds of delay) are making an album
3:54 PM really?
me: yes… i THINK
Helm - excerpt of “Impossible Symmetry” (on PAN)
Tom James Scott – Skire (from “Crystals”, released on Carnivals)
Denesh: have you heard that harwoods record?
that he made with john hamilton and harwood (Mark Harwood runs Penultimate Press)?
3:55 PM me: Did you know James Tranmer (of The Sticks and The Pheromoans) is
quite a big collector of 60’s garage punk singles.. and he is compiling some, with the blessing of the artists, which is taking a while
The Sticks – Gunrada woz ‘ere (from “I don’t like it” on Sixteen Tambourines)
sorry, erm – i know. i speak to mark harwood now and again on the internet
Denesh: i saw he had a bunch of amazing lo fi records when he djed
3:56 PM me: yes he is a geek
oh god i’m deleting that
Denesh: we should delete most of this. sorry. this interview thing. i don’t have the skill set for this
3:57 PM me: well we might as well keep going, and just keep the okay bits…?
i got those records back from harwood
for record store day
me: oh yes
Denesh: i’m the only person to have bought on
me: its a sign of the times
Denesh: i prefer buying on the internet anyway
not sure if i can stand going into a shop
me: yes, you keep recommending good records to me, but they always cost
3:59 PM Denesh: err yeah. i’m a bit of a collector
but since this is like the only thing i spend money on i think it’s ok
i don’t even own half the equipment i used to make the record
me: did you buy that pub furniture in the end?
4:00 PM Denesh: and the track on the second side, the one that’s like .50 seconds long
is only that long because gemma sold the organ i was using on it
so couldn’t finish it!
i bought all this weird furniture
Denesh: never spend more than £10 on any furniture
there’s no need
6 chairs for £30
4:01 PM like weatherspoons chairs
me: did you watch that thing with grayson perry the other night, about furniture?
i watched that bbc post punk documentary tho
me: oh i thought it was pub garden furniture, that you were putting indoors!
i have some taste!
4:02 PM me: oh the PPD (post punk doc). i can’t stand that band, Gang of FOur
Denesh: yeah but PIL were on it
and Crass as well
Crass – Do They Owe Us A Living (from “Feeding of the 5000″)
i fucking hate those docs. it’s all about cultivating the mythology that surrounds those bands
4:03 PM me: yes, i thought the only ones who came accross well was Mark Stewart..
he said something like,
«punk was not about fat 40 year olds on bbc4!
Denesh: but they weren’t interested in people saying anything in that doc
it was so heavily edited
4:04 PM me: johnny rotten referred to «the shitstem»
Denesh: you can tell they interviewed most of the «players» at that time for a long time but heavily edited it down to juicy tidbits
me: ie the system, being shit
me: (back in 20 seconds)
Denesh: love rotten
much better than jah wobble
4:05 PM i think it’s wobble who’s the spurs fan
me: yes he is, did you read his book?
4:06 PM Denesh: no. i read a book about pil tho
called metal box
that stated when he was kicked out of the band al he did was work on the london underground and watch spurs
me: jah wobble’s book is really good!
Denesh: i think wobble had a practice room in stratford
4:07 PM when we were kids we used to practice in this space near stratford and there was a room with jah wobble’s name writted on the door
shit practice studio
all the gear was always broken
even worse than audio underground!!!
4:08 PM me: oh god… the best practice space in north london is manor house but we can never get in there because you have booked it
Denesh: yeah. i don’t use it much any more. but i’ve quit my job so plan on using it more often
4:09 PM the best PIL album is flowers of romance
i don’t think wobble is on that
me: i think they’re all good
even the later ones
4:10 PM is it to early to have a beer?
it’s never too early
me: who is pushing your buttons at the moment?
4:11 PM on the music scene?
Denesh: locally or otherwise?
me: locally preferably.. though don’t suppose that geography is a huge factor
Denesh: errr pheromoans
4:12 PM bomber jackets (another band featuring Russell)
Bomber Jackets – Centurion Timeline (from “Centurion Travel” EP on Night School)
i dunno i don’t like many bands in london
i like the new heatsick record
me: i have ‘intersex’ is that one?
just came out
4:13 PM has this mental track on the second side
me: oh, well i liked ‘intersex’
Denesh: yeah intersex is really good
Heatsick – Ice Cream on Concrète (from “Intersex” on PAN)
Heatsick – Déviation (from “Déviation” on PAN)
me: i got it with ghedalia tazartes
Ghédalia Tazartès live with David Fenech, Jac Berrocal, Quentin Rollet:
Ghédalia Tazartès – Un amour si grand qu’il nie son objet (from “Diasporas”, reissued by Alga Marghen)
Denesh: how about this
how about this
4:14 PM we edit out the most of the interview apart from this part:
«is it to early to have a beer?
it’s never too early»
me: ha, ok
the only band in london i liked were Pens
but they split up
Denesh: I forgot to pay my council tax and now they sent some kind of court
me: just as they were getting good
who are pens?
i think i remember doig talking about them
they were three women
Pens – Freddy (from “Hey Friend, What you doing?” on De Stijl)
they don’t even bother collecting the rubbish in n15 every week yet they expect council tax?
4:17 PM ffs
so what have you been listening to recently?
4:18 PM me: someone put a bag of dog shit in my recycling bin the other week, so not only would they not take my recycling, but i had to remove the dog shit and put it in my bin
i would have preferred it if the dog owner had just left it on the pavement – and let us take our chances
4:19 PM me: and then my recycling wasn’t collected for ages after because of the poxy jubilee
which drove me to alcohol
hence more recycling!
me: what have i been listening to recently.. the old Heatsick record.
me: score prediction for tonight?
4:21 PM Denesh:
italy 0 spain 3
me: space 0 italy 1
me: ha – that was an accident
me: but we said the same score – so it definitely won’t be 1-0 to italy
balotelli is going to headbutt mark lawrenson
Denesh: i didn’t like it when balotelli stamped on parkers face
4:22 PM or that tackle on song
he’s a funny guy but he goes too far sometimes
me: people seem to indulge him
Denesh: yes because the english public loves guys like this
linekar loves him
me: he’s kitsch
Denesh: he’s openly declared that he thinks he’s cool
4:23 PM me: i prefer pirlo. he looks about as fit as i am
but nobody can get the ball of him
Denesh: pirlo is not a real person
me: i said the other night to hannah that he looked like he was in an alt country band
Denesh: he;s like the guy from the stella advert
retro european yuppie cool
me: ha ha
4:24 PM Denesh: i’m more amazed taht someone like pirlo actually exists than in his football ability
me: iniesta is probably better, but he is much fitter
Denesh: yeah but iniesta doesn’t have the same glamour
me: so its not a fair comparison
4:25 PM Denesh: it’s like if james bond was a footballer
me: buffon is quite a handsome guy
Denesh: he loves musollini
Denesh: it’s true
loads of those italian footballers love musolini
even that aquilani
me: di canio is at sweden now
4:26 PM Denesh: swindon
me: i mean swindon
i have to go sort this council tax thing out
me: yep… speak soon !
Denesh: ok speak later
4:27 PM me: how to copy & paste this?